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re: frequency response, if you can hear distinctly above 18kHz and/or lower than 20Hz, you'd be an outlier. The upper end frequencies are generally "noticed" only as overtones, and while nice, probably not worth paying more for unless you are one of those rare people that can really hear them. That being said, I've had the 7's for my touring work, and my personal experience is that you don't want to keep in ears in much longer than you have to. It's certainly easier to manage good sound at lower levels, which is good, but also your ears are built to receive sound waves propogating through air, and that makes in ears very fatiguing.
 
Col. Gaspar said:
that SBx7 has a burr brown dac... I am looking at the sure 846 IEM just so I can share them and not have to get impressions... there is a 10Hz difference in the low with the UE11 at 5Hz and the sure at 15Hz and up at the high end with the UE11 at 22kHz and the sure at 20kHz... if I remember correctly the UE11 top and low end is outside what is appreciable be the human ear

I don't know which to get... does those small differences make any kind of difference or is it just PR like most specs to make you pick the better speced version

They are both supposed to have incredible low end... I often see the Sure having more lavish descriptions of bass despite the UE11 out performing them technically

Thoughts?
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Below 20hz it is all sensing the sound and less about hearing the actual sound waves. Also, every human ear has it's own dynamic sound range for audible perception, talk to any audiologist. If it was my money I would still spend up to what has the best sound range in a lab setting, also the SNR will have more impact on perceived sound quality then what hz below 50 is being produced. I am not into hip-hop or rap so massive thumping is always pretty low on my list until I get to my home theater setup, for that I want rip your face off kind of sound waves.
 
Fasttrak said:
... I am not into hip-hop or rap so massive thumping is always pretty low on my list until I get to my home theater setup, for that I want rip your face off kind of sound waves.
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that escalated quickly :p reminds me of those old maxell commercials, lol.
 
I have a Martin Logan dynamo 700 for my bass in home theater department... I can't turn it above 15 percent because it destroys things... Shit falls off stuff and pictures fall off the wall.. I ran it at 50 percent and it broke the mirror in my half bath


And I apparently ordered the sure 846...I don't remember ordering it... It was $1,018 after tax and will be delivered tomorrow
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I have to say that I am thoroughly impressed with the Sure 846's. The highs are bright and airy, almost totally transparent. The middles are brilliant and OMFG the BASS on these is like my Martin Logan Dynamo 700 turned up to MAX. The bass hits hard and clean and the extension both high and low are magical. I honestly thought my XBA4's were supposed to be the end all beat all as they were lauded for their near perfect sound with healthy bass. They have absolutely nothing on the Sure 846! Music I listen to ALL the time sounds NEW again. I am picking up parts of tracks I have never heard. And in some of my dubstep tracks it feels like my whole head is in a perfect sub-woofer. I honestly feel it disturbs my equilibrium when it reaches down to the lowest of lows. I can actually hear artists BREATH in between words and phrases, stuff I have never heard before.

I am using them with the three flange in ear plugs. This design was suitable for me to rattle off shots with Ma Deuce, ask if you don't know who Ma Deuce is, so I felt this design would provide the best seal.
The seal is almost perfect and the sound isolation is superb. I can not hear my typing this short review on my notoriously loud mechanical keyboard. Because of the over ear design with memory wire there is little to no cable noise so I am very happy.

the bundled accessories are what you would expect for a $1,000 pair of headphones. You get a nice box, inside the box is another very nice box. Inside that very nice box is a pelican case and inside the case is your earphones, carrying case and a wide array of tips so you can get that o so perfect seal. it also comes with a second detachable cable 60 inches in length, they one already attaches is 42 inches.

Overall I would give them an 8/10. Why an 8 you ask? Honestly these should't cost as much as they did. I could see $499 but $999 is too much. I would send them back buy I already gave away my XBA 4's to my younger brother Dakota who is in his room going through his hip hop collection.

Pros-Perfect sound with head ratteling bass, almost no cable noise, accesories
Cons- prohibitably expensive, lack of customization
 
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