play styles

[B.Rubble]

Hello 47r/pubbers/puggers/all-stars/rando peeps.Rubble here with a conundrum.


Been playing for about a month or two now.Dig the server/its peeps. Of late,particularly the last week,I've noticed that the Boy Scouts are apparently hosting a nightly jamboree on the T-side of most every map.At least,it seems that way with all the camping going on. I'm not talking a mere half minute,then move-out.I'm talking fires,sing-alongs, and even a ghost story session. It's not random in/out players either.For some,its their play style,and is consistent across the map rotation.Of note

DainBramaged-d2-camps behind double doors/long/right side t-side.Not for a rush prevention,but camps it like He rented the site for the summer. Doesn't move to help forward objective,and only seems to move once most players are dead/and or bomb is planted.

Skillz-Camps most maps,usually w/the sniper rifle.Not a mere hang-out,take a few shots,then forward the objective.Talking last person left,consistently,rarely moving forward.To His credit,He DID begin moving forward slightly *Read/Out of spawn,below it...d2/T side* after repeated notices by other players and in fact, a 47r.When a guys team LOSES the match,and HE is 17-1...that aint skill,thats camping.

WHY does it matter?Honestly?I gotta answer that.Ok,simple.Has nothing to do with kills.Has EVERYTHING to do with not wanting to watch some dbag play his own/personal CAL match whilst the rest of us wait for them to be gangbanged like a roofied out cheerleader on prom night. *For the record,I enjoyed myself a great deal,though the roofies do give one a hangover*. Furthermore,this is a TEAM based game,no? How does one support the team when they're nowhere near the objective? I rush,I have a shitty system and slow response times.I die alot,simple. Idc about personal score,I'm one of those assholes whose happy when the team wins. The TEAM must work together to win a match.In that,I ask that something be done about insane campers. Most tend to get the idea when they're asked/told about it,but some just dont give a fuck. There are many options for dealing with 'em,but I'm not 47r,nor am I a longenough time player here to recc. a particular course of action.I won't/cannot in good reasoning recc. a particular method.I just ask that it's looked at/handled in some form.Ty..

SIDENOTE-Props like MAD to WarFreakz for banning a racist dbag "Im a pimp your a shrimp' earlier this week.Dude was dropping N-bombs and Mexican racist commentary like He was the announcer from the South Park 4th grade football game. *I havent seen a Jew run like that since Poland,1943-DUDE You cant say that* All it took was a mention/co-sign from another player and He was ga-ga/OUTTAHERE!For the record.He came in last night and while I was in,he was on STFU status...well done and Ty again Ya nasty lil Freakz!

 

[fAt Kaka]

We DO have administrators on the server most of the times and they usually do a fine job enforcing the "unspoken" rules. However, it sounds like there is this group of players who wish they have their own server and play their own way.

One way to beat their system is to beat them in the game. You might have to round up a few regulars and kick some ass.

Our administrators' job is to make "most" of the pubbers happy. Unless this is a big problem for the regulars, I can hardly justify any serious action from the admins.

 

[B.Rubble]

We DO have administrators on the server most of the times and they usually do a fine job enforcing the "unspoken" rules. However, it sounds like there is this group of players who wish they have their own server and play their own way.

One way to beat their system is to beat them in the game. You might have to round up a few regulars and kick some ass.

Our administrators' job is to make "most" of the pubbers happy. Unless this is a big problem for the regulars, I can hardly justify any serious action from the admins.

Thats the reason I brought it to the forums. The amount of the complaints on the server,that's all KaKa.I am not new to pubbing/admin work and understand the theorem,ideal of admin in a pub. You are correct,there are admin on most of the time,however due to the differing styles "Fasttrak-fuck you im not gonna let ya get away with that" vs another admin "You cant admin/fix stupid' have created a issue wherein people feel free to do whatever. It gets better the later it gets,as more admins/47r show up to play,and that cuts down on the idiots.Perhaps a better way to say it would be to echo IceWolfs requests, daily,on the Forum chatbox-"Hey,lets get the pub pop'd" which brings more admins in,solving the issue through mere presence. Good Day

 

[TheStig]

I will personally be slapping/slaying more frequently due to camping. e.g. spending the first 30 seconds in T spawn trying to get a pick on double doors in d2 is okay, but it's when they stay there until 30 seconds left in the round. Sounds like a slay to me.

 

[B.Rubble]

I will personally be slapping/slaying more frequently due to camping. e.g. spending the first 30 seconds in T spawn trying to get a pick on double doors in d2 is okay, but it's when they stay there until 30 seconds left in the round. Sounds like a slay to me.

THATS all anyone could ask for Stig. As I said,I wasn't/am not trying to run a server via forum posts,lol. Im a old school player and realize Im archaic w/regards to camping,how one acts on a server.I only brought it as longtime 47r pubbers were complaining long/loud/across several Maps.

 

[A-Rich]

I feel your frustration, as most of us do. It's worse when it's the same guy, same story. "Why is this guy always last to die?" Oh yeah, he just left spawn...again. It's especially frustrating for people like myself that are first in a rush and first to die. I say those guys should just play a 1-player Duck Hunt game.

 

[Ghonzo]

Hey look at the bright side we now know where these individuals camp thanks to B.Rubble

 

[A Stable Carbocation]

Great post, lol.

The main reason why these guys aren't slayed more is cause the admins are so good they never die in time to see it!

But it's true, some admins (myself included) are more... lenient. I don't like to slay until I know someone is not in their spawn for a good reason (maybe he was rotating before I specd him). Rubble's good for calling people, but I feel like he would slay more than Fasttrak, if he could... I like to see it with my own eyes first, and I'm sure other mods agree. unless you die early in the round, it's hard (at least for me) to justify slaying dudes who I think might be camping, but I don't know for sure.

 

[B.Rubble]

Great post, lol.

The main reason why these guys aren't slayed more is cause the admins are so good they never die in time to see it!

But it's true, some admins (myself included) are more... lenient. I don't like to slay until I know someone is not in their spawn for a good reason (maybe he was rotating before I specd him). Rubble's good for calling people, but I feel like he would slay more than Fasttrak, if he could... I like to see it with my own eyes first, and I'm sure other mods agree. unless you die early in the round, it's hard (at least for me) to justify slaying dudes who I think might be camping, but I don't know for sure.

The issue isn't that hard Stable. Is it more than .30 into the round?Cool. NO reason for being spawn,engaging targets,period. End of story,IMO,lol. I know that people re-direct through spawn,particularly on D2 when the double doors are covered. The idea of re-direct,or displacement as I call it on the server,is just that...GTFO,Move,disengage,FIND another FUCKIN Hole to put it in..Don't stop on the T'spawn to engage people coming through the low doubles.ITS NOT UR JOB.The job,is to plant the fuckin bomb.Simple,straight forward,no filter. You're right Stable,and wrong.I May slay/kick quicker than Fasttrak,but I'm not a complete douche.I did it thusly,previously. "Yo,dude,get outta spawn.You hv 30 seconds,and then Ya gotta be on the field,pushing the objective".Nice,friendly, lil warning.Next time,Kick.Not slay,kick. Slay does nothing. It kills them,thats it.Teaches,shows NOTHING at all to them. When they come back,it'd better be w/some act right.I.e. -WTFWAS that about,shitty admin,etc?NOT ACTING RIGHT.That earns a 1day ban.Period.If they come back "wth?OH,didnt see it/know it/hear it" no worries.Sorry Man,We aint trying to watch ur personal CAL match...we move on.They do it again,1day ban. Done.No talking,no threats,no bullshit.The lack of respect and dignity for anothers server/home is evident,and I don't do disrespect. Does it cut down on players?Yep..the shitty ones. We have space for people like RapeRabbit,who rushes/pushes all the time. SmokeDMT,who may be emo as HELL,but the kid pushes and works his ass off for the team. Idk,as I said,I'm just bringing it up as many people were complaining,that hv been here far longer.Ty for at least discussing it and getting on it.I played lil last night,but did see several admins warning people,admonishing them to get outta spawn.Much quicker,more centered game play and less waiting for Pete in Paducah to get his ass killed 1v7.

 

[A Stable Carbocation]

idk, I've always been the type of person who avoids taking action on anything without full knowledge of all the relevant facts. If i see people sitting in T spawn, then yes, they get a warning. I do admit tho, I could do more slaying before the round ends. (Warning>Slay at end of round>slay when it's clear they won't be doing anything for the team)

A good example of a situation in which MANY people call for a slay and don't get one: People who don't go the right site after the bomb is planted. I'm not going to slay them for going to the wrong one and just sitting since they don't have enough time left to even MAKE it to the bomb. With a crappy team, sometimes you go to the wrong bombsite because no one tells you where the bomb is. Not everyone plays RTS and knows to constantly watch the minimap. And if you are a situation that allows you to make a mistake (i.e., you are not at either bomb site, and thus can't use the easy process of elimination to figure out the right one) it means you are out and about on the map, not camping. It's an honest mistake that can happen when you have no information.

As for bans, I have never seen any of the admins here ban for not playing obj, they just constantly slay. For most people this actually works, IMO. Now, there are people like Mr. White and DOUGHEAD who, no matter how many times you slay them, still do the same thing. (Though to be fair, Doug has really improved in this area.) I will be happy to just keep slaying.

It's also a matter of map. On dust2, I also feel despair when we don't rush somewhere and just sit outside mid doors or B. It's so hard to make something happen in the middle of a round on that map. But on maps like Inferno, I notice T's are a lot more willing to try, not matter what. Same with Mirage, Favela, and Season. Even Mill, as well.

My point is, people get slayed, and most of them learn. I know you've got more experience in this area than me, but these are the reasons I don't slay every time you request it, lol. I'm kind of like the jury in a courtroom.. Can I say he was not trying to play obj beyond a reasonable doubt?