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DeSiRe. said:
Yeah I was at work yesterday and reading the inquisitor (shame on me).... and the sherrifs office is offering a class on September 22nd for 100$ and I think I'm gonna take it! The police are who I am most concerned about actually. Considering they have been fucking up lately and getting the FBI involved in some cases. Also, my brother said he was gonna buy a pistol and let me shoot it first so that will probably be after my class. I can't wait!
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I hope you mean that you are afraid of the police getting all antsy when they find out you have a gun and not that you feel you need it to protect yourself from the police or from others because the police are not protecting you. If the reason is any of the later, I would suggest moving or filing a complaint, or even both.

Like [MENTION=26]Uncle P.[/MENTION] stated guns are great to have for recreational sport shooting but they are still deadly weapons and owning a weapon carries great responsibility.

Be safe Desire, I don't think anyone here wants to hear about anyone getting hurt, or you getting in trouble!

Taking a course from the police will definitely help you feel more comfortable with your weapon.

I hope your gun ownership experience can be fun and rewarding!
 
Wombo said:
I hope you mean that you are afraid of the police getting all antsy when they find out you have a gun and not that you feel you need it to protect yourself from the police or from others because the police are not protecting you. If the reason is any of the later, I would suggest moving or filing a complaint, or even both.

Like [MENTION=26]Uncle P.[/MENTION] stated guns are great to have for recreational sport shooting but they are still deadly weapons and owning a weapon carries great responsibility.

Be safe Desire, I don't think anyone here wants to hear about anyone getting hurt, or you getting in trouble!

Taking a course from the police will definitely help you feel more comfortable with your weapon.

I hope your gun ownership experience can be fun and rewarding!
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I have absolutely no comment for you wombo because you know exactly why I feel the need to protect myself.
 
Fred said:
Gun ownership fun and rewarding? Owning a weapon is a serious deal.
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Yes fun and rewarding. If you are competent in how you use it, it can be something of great pleasure.

I do live in Canada, so I do not have to worry about people carrying weapons on the street. Taking them to the range is very fun and rewarding however.
 
Wombo said:
Yes fun and rewarding. If you are competent in how you use it, it can be something of great pleasure.

I do live in Canada, so I do not have to worry about people carrying weapons on the street. Taking them to the range is very fun and rewarding however.
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So was that a cheap shot that because I live in America I do have to worry about it? I live in Texas, everyone has a gun and I'm not worried. You ever put a bullet in someone. Once you've done that, or witnessed someone die from a gunshot wound then you might change your story. Yes, I have fun with my guns, the range is boring. I hunt. The point of a weapon is to kill. This is part of our history, weapons came into being because of a need. A need to defend or take as a means of survival. They evolved into something much more. The play to our human nature to destroy and now we have weekend warriors that use them and say "oh what fun!". Until a well trained boy goes outside and has an accident. Accidents do not care how competent you are. So the boy is the victim of an accidental discharge to his head. Father walks out and finds this, has heart attack and now a woman has buried 2/3 of her family. Try telling her that they are fun and rewarding. Guns are first and foremost serious business. But I wouldn't expect someone as young and ignorant as you to know any better. Come back once you have actually had some life experiences that are outside of a video game.
 
Easy Fred let the kids talk is freedom of speech,I know about the fun part know less about the rewarding part,in time maybe he will come along.
 
Most of my friends, being in the military, make use of Missouri's open carry laws on a daily basis. Each of my close friends owns a weapons (or 5) and we partake in shooting them regularly at ranges and rural areas. However, we also preach safety as a number one priority. Each of us has been taught how to properly operate a firearm. We do find joy in going to the range and it can be quite a fun experience, but I do agree with you Fred, they serve a sole purpose.


Back on track: My best friend owns a M9 and raves about it. I personally, being of smaller stature, like the Glock series best. (19 Gen4)
 
Wombo said:
Makarov pistols have always made me laugh slightly. There is something about them, maybe the Eastern European influence, that just makes it look and feel a bit old timey. Not to say they are not fully capable guns, but they remind me of an era around 1940 :0 Cool guns tho, haha
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Well stated and very true. What can I say...I survived the '60's, '70's, '80's, 90's, '00's. "Old timey" comes natural for an old fart like me. It was the first that came to mind because my buddies always told me it was a "ladies" gun and then tried to sell me theirs. I would have bought one but then i would have had to shoot my friends for being such a-holes. Prison seemed like a long way from home so I passed on the offer. Still, my experiences with my buddy's "Mocky" (Hey, that's what he called it. I suspect he may have put lipstick on it and dressed it in satin and lace once or twice but I can't prove it.) was a smooth gun for a small to medium hand that didn't require a bench and a clamp to pop off a nice tight and neat three or more. It's pretty simple to clean and some rubber slip-ons can further enhance the experience. Plus, it's small, reasonably light, and easy to conceal in addition to being very cheap. Texas still allows you to carry a sidearm so long as it's visible as far as I know. Clip it on your belt and when the bad guy comes in and starts bobbing and weaving when he see's the piece you can take your time because he'll get tired before your arm does. Also, the Makarov is fairly intuitive and does not require proper gun range aiming technique to effectively make Mr. Bad Guy wish he'd gone to a movie rather than discovering that 9mm's is a lot more lead than he thought.

Personally I enjoy the Colt .45 on the range but only if it's equipped with a compensator and Pachmayer condoms. For home security I like a 12 guage pump security model with 2 birdshot (or rocksalt) backed up by a deerslug or two. I don't want to kill anybody but if I did I could rack up the slug PDQ. But I don't keep many guns around the house anymore. Guns are only effective self defense devices if you have them handy, can remain extremely calm in a life or death situation, have plenty of time, and are damned sure you can hunt quail better than Dick Cheney. When the situation actually comes up you'll be left grabbing whatever feels solid. People like to kid themselves about their own abilities as well the utility of their expensive weapons. I say best of luck to all the Mr. Cheney's, but mostly I hope Mr. Cheney's friends are quicker than he is.
 
Uncle P. said:
Easy Fred let the kids talk is freedom of speech,I know about the fun part know less about the rewarding part,in time maybe he will come along.
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Freedom of speech goes both ways. He can say his part, and I can say mine.
 
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