BSOD - Cooling the Issue- Fan Advice?

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  1. Dehugger
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    Hey guys. I have been getting random BSOD (blue screen of death) for the past couple days at completely random times. I ran chkdsk and memchk and both my ram and hard drives are fine. My drivers are all up to date. I tracked down the event log Id (6008) which is apparently supposed to be related to critical thermal levels inside the machine. On the one hand this is perfectly plausible, as it is a mid tower case and the AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE cpu I have is notorious for high heat levels, as well as having a gtx 460 se in there. But on the other hand I have a decent amount of cooling (hyper master 212+ cpu cooler, two case fans one large one small, and a power supply that has two fans and vents heat out the bottom of the case) and watching my temp gauges things have been looking fairly normal (under 55 Celsius on cpu and 45 Celsius on mobo) those temps are hotter then I would like but I havnt had issues with them yet. This leads me to believe that one of my temp sensors maybe wacky and is either reporting the wrong temps in AMD OverDrive or to windows (which would cause it to bluescreen). Before I shell out some cash, which I am rapidly running out of, on new fans, anybody (SG, Hunter, Im looking at you) got any ideas on stuff I could try. For reference, I have had all these parts for about 2 months without any of these problems, which just popped up recently. As a side note, does anyone know if high mobo heat could cause ping spikes ingame? It seems unlikely, but worth asking.
     
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    From my experience with same symptoms, it turned out to be a dying power supply. Check your wires and connections as well.
     
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    Download Speed Fan and recalculate your temperature.
    And yes high temp on the mobo can lead some lag spikes happens to me on my laptop hence i have a fan blowing to my laptop with some 2inch high flashcards raising my laptop for better air vent
     
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    thanks ghonzo i believe that is the source my eternal lag spikes. i will check the power supply connections but I believe everything there is stable. By way of cooling do you guys think I will need to convert to liquid cooling or should four 120mm case fans do the trick?
     
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    Try re-seating all connected cards & memory sticks. You don't have to pull them off completely. Just push them in snug.
     
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    I just figured it out. I was in a rush putting things together and put my 3.5 inch HD's in the 2.5 in slots intended for solid states. They barely fit and they are right on top of each other. I just looked in speedfan and one of them is reading 50c. I am almost positive this is the problem.
     
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    Cool! Literally.
     
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    Ok. I shifted the HD's to the right place and they are much cooler. Unfortunately this did not solve the problem. I looked into the error code a bit more and it would appear to be a PSU problem (S-dawg... your a prophet) which makes perfect sense because I went the cheap ass route and bout a no-name power supply. Insert expletive here. For now the BSOD's arent common enough to prevent me from gaming, just to piss me off so its not a big deal until I can afford a new PSU (unless of course it blows up and fries my computer. then its a big deal). Of more pressing concern to me is my inability to play in the pub all the suden because of horrendous lag spikes. These started afflicting me about 3 or 4 days ago, and make the game basically unplayable. I am putting out a general plea for help, because I am stumped. I have tried running absolutely nothing but steam and CSS. Still lag spikes. I tried getting into command prompt, looking up every process connecting to the internet and shutting down all the non essential ones except CSS and Steam. Still a no go. I tried with my router and then without (plugged directly into my modem). No go. I tried changing my rates around in game. No good. Something worth mentioning I suppose is the fact that I can play CoD4 on my sexbox just fine (if anyone else plays it add me, gamertag WhyteCrayon... random thought).

    For people that know something about networking I compiled all this info in a desperate hope someone knows whats wrong. Oh almost forgot, I also tried disabling IPv6, because I read that can cause lag. That didn't work either. And I switched out all the ethernet cords, in case one of them had gone bad.

    +note+ this makes it look like my router is causing some lag and packet dropping which it may well be, but I still wasnt able to play even without it.

    //USING ROUTER TO CONNECT TO INTERNET

    FROM ROUTER TO 47R SERVER

    --- 66.151.138.51 ping statistics ---
    packets transmitted = 61 , packets received = 58 packet loss = 4%
    round-trip min/avg/max = 50/80/150

    FROM ROUTER TO GOOGLE

    --- google.com ping statistics ---
    packets transmitted = 70 , packets received = 66 packet loss = 5%
    round-trip min/avg/max = 20/64/160

    //GOING DIRECTLY THROUGH THE MODEM

    FROM COMPUTER TO 47R SERVER


    Ping statistics for 66.151.138.51:
    Packets: Sent = 100, recieved = 100, lost = 0
    Aprox. Round Trip
    Min = 47ms, Max = 210ms, Avg = 69ms


    FROM COMPUTER TO GOOGLE


    Ping statistics for google.com:
    Packets: Sent = 100, recieved = 100, lost = 0
    Aprox. Round Trip
    Min = 22ms, Max = 110ms, Avg = 44ms

    //TRACEROUTES

    TO 47R SERVER

    Tracing route to c-66-151-138-51.managed-vds.internap-sj.nfoservers.com [66.151.138.51]

    over a maximum of 30 hops:



    1 45 ms 67 ms 46 ms 66.172.96.1.nwinternet.com [66.172.96.1]

    2 40 ms 62 ms 62 ms 206.130.130.234.nwinternet.com [206.130.130.234]

    3 199 ms 201 ms 223 ms agg1-sea-g1-18.bb.spectrumnet.us [216.243.26.17]

    4 44 ms 38 ms 49 ms cr2-sea-B-p10.bb.spectrumnet.us [208.76.153.37]

    5 271 ms 282 ms 163 ms GigabitEthernet9-1.ar1.SEA1.gblx.net [207.138.144.17]

    6 101 ms 82 ms 117 ms INTERNAP.te1-3.ar1.snv2.gblx.net [64.210.28.142]

    7 71 ms 117 ms 83 ms border1.t4-1-bbnet2.sje003.pnap.net [66.151.144.90]

    8 57 ms 68 ms 69 ms c-66-151-138-51.managed-vds.internap-sj.nfoservers.com [66.151.138.51]



    Trace complete.

    TO GOOGLE


    Tracing route to google.com [74.125.127.104]

    over a maximum of 30 hops:



    1 39 ms 74 ms 41 ms 66.172.96.1.nwinternet.com [66.172.96.1]

    2 97 ms 119 ms 87 ms 206.130.130.234.nwinternet.com [206.130.130.234]

    3 88 ms 39 ms 92 ms six.sea01.google.com [206.81.80.17]

    4 71 ms 44 ms 66 ms 66.249.94.214

    5 36 ms 43 ms 43 ms 66.249.94.197

    6 * 89 ms 44 ms 216.239.46.208

    7 68 ms 89 ms 43 ms 64.233.174.127

    8 133 ms 67 ms 53 ms 216.239.46.18

    9 87 ms 66 ms 43 ms pz-in-f104.1e100.net [74.125.127.104]



    Trace complete.
     
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    yah get a TX750, i have one, but not for use with tiny cases
    hell ill even sell you mine
     

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